On the eve of the start of the second summer against the backdrop of the pandemic, in this Portuguese language PLMJ Podcast, we look at the tourism sector through the eyes of Carlos Leal, who heads United Investments, Portugal, which owns landmark projects such as Pine Cliffs and the Sheraton Cascais. In conversation with Carlos Leal and Margarida Osório Amorim, a partner in PLMJ's tourism practice , we look at the sector's responses to the pandemic, but we also go further and anticipate the challenges and responses of the next decade.